tabasco70
Jan 12, 09:10 AM
I feel bad for her kids.
CWT1965
Apr 12, 09:35 AM
Am sure Steve will want to launch this one, can't wait to see him back on stage again
celebrian23
Jul 24, 10:52 PM
<So, there you have it a completely enclosed ipod, so elegant as not to have a single button or port opening or anything but a beautiful screen.>
I think there is a hole in this argument/dream. Apple has spent considerable time and marketing money in the Made for iPod campaign that centers arounds the dock connector. They have created the Universal dock and inserts for all recent iPods, promising to keep these updated with all new iPods in the foreseeable future. Therefore, I seriously doubt these new no touch iPods wouldn't have at least a dock connector. It allows third parties to keep their investment in accessories without getting pissed at Apple for changing the rules again. How about all these car interfaces that are just now gaining traction in new automobiles for example? They need the dock connector to work. Without the third party economy and proprietary ports, there is also little to keep the MS Menace at bay, despite the coolness of such a product.
Bottom Line: there WILL be a regular dock connector for the foreseeable future on all iPods except the shuffle (which is on it's way out).
oh thank you for the answers, oh great enlightened one
I think there is a hole in this argument/dream. Apple has spent considerable time and marketing money in the Made for iPod campaign that centers arounds the dock connector. They have created the Universal dock and inserts for all recent iPods, promising to keep these updated with all new iPods in the foreseeable future. Therefore, I seriously doubt these new no touch iPods wouldn't have at least a dock connector. It allows third parties to keep their investment in accessories without getting pissed at Apple for changing the rules again. How about all these car interfaces that are just now gaining traction in new automobiles for example? They need the dock connector to work. Without the third party economy and proprietary ports, there is also little to keep the MS Menace at bay, despite the coolness of such a product.
Bottom Line: there WILL be a regular dock connector for the foreseeable future on all iPods except the shuffle (which is on it's way out).
oh thank you for the answers, oh great enlightened one
Chimera
Oct 24, 08:03 AM
I think it is �50 cheaper for the base model in the UK
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baryon
Apr 14, 03:31 AM
I would think that's just a string variable that holds the App name. For some reason, it displays the variable instead of displaying its value.
iphone3gs16gb
Apr 26, 11:21 PM
Almost as funny as your daughters face when she discovers that her dad is a brutal bigot who waits outside toilet doors to beat people up (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=12453464&postcount=56).
Woah there big boy, calm down.
He is a father who has a daughter, put yourself in his shoes...
Also when did he explicitly state he "waits outside toilet doors to beat people up"?
Woah there big boy, calm down.
He is a father who has a daughter, put yourself in his shoes...
Also when did he explicitly state he "waits outside toilet doors to beat people up"?
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Mac-Mariachi
Apr 12, 10:41 AM
Aren't we quickly getting to the point where it's all about the software?
Ok, so we know iPhone 5 will get dual core A5....big deal. It'll be nice to have the extra power, but the iPhone 4 now is no slouch.
Added RAM.....yeah, that would be nice....but not going to suddenly sell more phones because it has more RAM :p
Display won't get any better resolution-wise. Doubt they'd go with a larger screen either.
Better cameras....ok.....still, the iPhone 4 cameras are no slouch, and it's not like it will reach the quality of a nice DSLR with those tiny sensors.
Better graphics processing.....sure.....but it's not like it has to drive a 9.7" screen like the iPad.
I'd say Apple is smartly switching into software mode. Kick ass with iOS5, revamp notifications, make some much needed overhauls to the system, and optimize performance for todays devices (iPhone 4, iPad & iPad 2).
Apple is going to stay ahead with software. That's the way Apple is and always has been.
-Kevin
Best comment on this thread!
Ok, so we know iPhone 5 will get dual core A5....big deal. It'll be nice to have the extra power, but the iPhone 4 now is no slouch.
Added RAM.....yeah, that would be nice....but not going to suddenly sell more phones because it has more RAM :p
Display won't get any better resolution-wise. Doubt they'd go with a larger screen either.
Better cameras....ok.....still, the iPhone 4 cameras are no slouch, and it's not like it will reach the quality of a nice DSLR with those tiny sensors.
Better graphics processing.....sure.....but it's not like it has to drive a 9.7" screen like the iPad.
I'd say Apple is smartly switching into software mode. Kick ass with iOS5, revamp notifications, make some much needed overhauls to the system, and optimize performance for todays devices (iPhone 4, iPad & iPad 2).
Apple is going to stay ahead with software. That's the way Apple is and always has been.
-Kevin
Best comment on this thread!
Intell
Apr 16, 07:45 PM
Welcome to the twelfth installment of the Simple Werewolves Game!
The game will begin as soon as discussion and sign-ups conclude. The number of people that sign-up will dictate how many and what type of werewolves we have in the game.
This game is a blend of simple and live formats. This means that lynching occurs after a time period, not majority. Specials also only have 24 hours to PM.
GAME RULES:
THE GOOD GUYS:
Hunter: The Hunter can pick a player to protect every night against werewolf attacks. However, the Hunter cannot protect the same player two nights in a row, and cannot protect him/herself. The protection does extend into the daytime, meaning the Hunter can protect a villager from a Kamikaze Werewolf attack.
Seer: The Seer can find the true role of any ALIVE player.
Villager: Same as before.
Neighborhood Watch: Three elves that can exchange PMs with one another. Their members can be infected and they cannot recruit additional members. They have no decisions to PM to me. What they discuss is up to them. The roles of Neighborhood Watch will only be giving if there are more then 15 people playing.
THE BAD GUYS:
The Werewolves: Werewolves can PM each other. They pick one villager to eat per night. There are three kinds of werewolves;
a) Alpha Wolf, can at any time during the game, pick one villager to infect. This will convert the villager into a normal werewolf (no special abilities) and join the werewolves' team. The infection is effective against specials such as the Seer.
b) Kamikaze Werewolf has the ability to pick any one villager to kill during his lynching. In other words, if he is voted to be hanged, he will take one villager with him.
c) The normal Werewolf has no powers.
Miscellaneous:
a) Villagers can NOT PM each other. (exception: neighborhood watch members)
b) Werewolves CAN PM each other.
c) Players can edit their posts during the game is in progress, however if you edit your post, you MUST give an explanation of why/what you edited.
d) (a.k.a. the jav6454 rule (by the way of -aggie-) :D) Dead players can NOT participate in the game - this includes providing information, encouragement, tips or otherwise. This has been an issue in the previous game, so I'm going to be more strict with this. Dead players are eligible to ONE post following his death. This one post follows the same rules as before - cannot influence the game, and so forth. Posts consisting of little more than an image is DISCOURAGED, so please avoid this. Dead players are allowed to post as much or as often as they want. But they must make all of there posts in the colour gray. The posts are also not allowed to influence the game in any way. If you are unsure of a post topic, don't post it. Good posts are along the lines of "Good job villagers!". A bad post would be: "I think Bob is a wolf." If people start posting things that could influence the game, I will ask them to edit the post to remove the offending text then reinstate the jav rule.
e) Voting for lynching will close 24 hours after day has started. (Unless stated otherwise.)
f) Voting can only take place in the daytime. Any votes made during the night will not be counted.
g) For clarity, when you vote, bold the name of the player you're voting for. This alleviates confusion and makes it easier for me to count the votes. You can also play with this - "I really like Bob, he's a great guy" counts as a vote for Bob You can jokingly vote by not bolding the name - it will not be counted.
h) You can retract and change your vote at any time up to the close of the vote.
i) The game will begin at DAYTIME, the days are 24 hours unless specified else. The person with the most votes will be lynched at that time. In the event of a tie, the first person to that number of votes is lynched.
j) There will be a TIME LIMIT of 24 hours for Specials to send in their PMs. The time limit will be 24 hours after the posting of the lynching. (NOT after the voting closes). Please remember that you can pre-PM these actions at the start of the day preceding the night in question. You can change this action up until the next morning. I also remind you that the villagers can agree to not lynch anyone with a unanimous vote.
k) I will post special results as soon as I am online and have them all. Thus, it is highly recommended that you set your profile to invisible mode so that other posters cannot view your login activity to see if you were online in the period between lynching and special results.
l) Villagers will now be told if they are scanned or protected. Specials should consider this before preforming their actions.
m) This question has came up in the discussion, so here is the turn order during the night:
Werewolf infects
Seer scans;
Hunter protects;
Werewolves attack.
n) If a player is a mod, he or she is not allowed to use their other godly powers to alter the game.
o) It is recommended that the players put their status into Invisible Mode.
To do this:
Go to User CP (http://forums.macrumors.com/usercp.php)
Edit options
Check Invisible Mode
http://imgur.com/kFHAA.png
PLAYERS
I will assign roles via Random.org, so looking for patterns will be fruitless (but not vegetableless, eat your veggies).
Players:
1. -aggie- dead - wolf
2. ucfgrad93 - dead
3. NathanMuir - dead
4. Eldiablojoe - dead - wolf
5. lbro
6. Moyank24 - dead
7. appleguy321 - dead
8. chrmjenkins
9. nies - dead - wolf
10. Don't panic - dead
11. Plutonius - dead
12. jav6454 - dead
The game will begin as soon as discussion and sign-ups conclude. The number of people that sign-up will dictate how many and what type of werewolves we have in the game.
This game is a blend of simple and live formats. This means that lynching occurs after a time period, not majority. Specials also only have 24 hours to PM.
GAME RULES:
THE GOOD GUYS:
Hunter: The Hunter can pick a player to protect every night against werewolf attacks. However, the Hunter cannot protect the same player two nights in a row, and cannot protect him/herself. The protection does extend into the daytime, meaning the Hunter can protect a villager from a Kamikaze Werewolf attack.
Seer: The Seer can find the true role of any ALIVE player.
Villager: Same as before.
Neighborhood Watch: Three elves that can exchange PMs with one another. Their members can be infected and they cannot recruit additional members. They have no decisions to PM to me. What they discuss is up to them. The roles of Neighborhood Watch will only be giving if there are more then 15 people playing.
THE BAD GUYS:
The Werewolves: Werewolves can PM each other. They pick one villager to eat per night. There are three kinds of werewolves;
a) Alpha Wolf, can at any time during the game, pick one villager to infect. This will convert the villager into a normal werewolf (no special abilities) and join the werewolves' team. The infection is effective against specials such as the Seer.
b) Kamikaze Werewolf has the ability to pick any one villager to kill during his lynching. In other words, if he is voted to be hanged, he will take one villager with him.
c) The normal Werewolf has no powers.
Miscellaneous:
a) Villagers can NOT PM each other. (exception: neighborhood watch members)
b) Werewolves CAN PM each other.
c) Players can edit their posts during the game is in progress, however if you edit your post, you MUST give an explanation of why/what you edited.
d) (a.k.a. the jav6454 rule (by the way of -aggie-) :D) Dead players can NOT participate in the game - this includes providing information, encouragement, tips or otherwise. This has been an issue in the previous game, so I'm going to be more strict with this. Dead players are eligible to ONE post following his death. This one post follows the same rules as before - cannot influence the game, and so forth. Posts consisting of little more than an image is DISCOURAGED, so please avoid this. Dead players are allowed to post as much or as often as they want. But they must make all of there posts in the colour gray. The posts are also not allowed to influence the game in any way. If you are unsure of a post topic, don't post it. Good posts are along the lines of "Good job villagers!". A bad post would be: "I think Bob is a wolf." If people start posting things that could influence the game, I will ask them to edit the post to remove the offending text then reinstate the jav rule.
e) Voting for lynching will close 24 hours after day has started. (Unless stated otherwise.)
f) Voting can only take place in the daytime. Any votes made during the night will not be counted.
g) For clarity, when you vote, bold the name of the player you're voting for. This alleviates confusion and makes it easier for me to count the votes. You can also play with this - "I really like Bob, he's a great guy" counts as a vote for Bob You can jokingly vote by not bolding the name - it will not be counted.
h) You can retract and change your vote at any time up to the close of the vote.
i) The game will begin at DAYTIME, the days are 24 hours unless specified else. The person with the most votes will be lynched at that time. In the event of a tie, the first person to that number of votes is lynched.
j) There will be a TIME LIMIT of 24 hours for Specials to send in their PMs. The time limit will be 24 hours after the posting of the lynching. (NOT after the voting closes). Please remember that you can pre-PM these actions at the start of the day preceding the night in question. You can change this action up until the next morning. I also remind you that the villagers can agree to not lynch anyone with a unanimous vote.
k) I will post special results as soon as I am online and have them all. Thus, it is highly recommended that you set your profile to invisible mode so that other posters cannot view your login activity to see if you were online in the period between lynching and special results.
l) Villagers will now be told if they are scanned or protected. Specials should consider this before preforming their actions.
m) This question has came up in the discussion, so here is the turn order during the night:
Werewolf infects
Seer scans;
Hunter protects;
Werewolves attack.
n) If a player is a mod, he or she is not allowed to use their other godly powers to alter the game.
o) It is recommended that the players put their status into Invisible Mode.
To do this:
Go to User CP (http://forums.macrumors.com/usercp.php)
Edit options
Check Invisible Mode
http://imgur.com/kFHAA.png
PLAYERS
I will assign roles via Random.org, so looking for patterns will be fruitless (but not vegetableless, eat your veggies).
Players:
1. -aggie- dead - wolf
2. ucfgrad93 - dead
3. NathanMuir - dead
4. Eldiablojoe - dead - wolf
5. lbro
6. Moyank24 - dead
7. appleguy321 - dead
8. chrmjenkins
9. nies - dead - wolf
10. Don't panic - dead
11. Plutonius - dead
12. jav6454 - dead
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dmw007
Oct 23, 08:36 AM
Well then...if this is the case, who needs XP or Vista? I may just install Windows RG on my macbook pro when I get it. And yes...we educated Windows RG users use only the best hardware. I'll be waiting for C2D too. :)
For me, it's either Mac OS Windows RG. :rolleyes:
For a preview of Windows RG: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/winrg.php
:D ;)
I don't see the difference between Windows XPee and Windows RG. :confused: ;) :D
For me, it's either Mac OS Windows RG. :rolleyes:
For a preview of Windows RG: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/winrg.php
:D ;)
I don't see the difference between Windows XPee and Windows RG. :confused: ;) :D
woolfgang
Jul 25, 10:21 AM
I tried the MM that came with my last computer, and I thought it sucked. Steve Jobs is brilliant, but also stubborn. He didn't want to make a 2 button mouse, so he found a way to make a mouse that didn't actually have 2 buttons, but could work like it did. I have a Logictech that works amazingly. It's comfortable, and I can do everything really fast and easy. I think most people that do/will buy the MM, do so because it's Apple.
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Vulpinemac
Apr 28, 01:12 PM
I'm honestly surprised by a lot of you. The whole "no single android phone outsells the iPhone!" argument, is foolish and weak. It's a platform war. You basically get ONE CHOICE with the iPhone. Now it's a great choice, but of course it's going to be a top seller as a result. There are so many good Android choices out there that a single model isn't going to dwarf the others. Since there are, you know, options? As a platform it seems iOS is getting whooped on. Does that not register, or are people that much in denial?
Now myself, I like my iPhone, but come on...in this case we are talking about platforms...So weird...
No, it's not a war; the only people who consider it a war are the people who will do anything to prove Apple isn't an innovative and in many ways cutting edge company. Competition? Yes. Competition is good. But if you really look, the majority of Android phones available on the open market sell for less than $100 and most of those sell for less than $50. So for Apple to offer its older model in the same price range is only leveling the field and proving that it's not just Android, but the price that is driving Android's sales so fast. Compete in the same ball fields at the same pricing and you see that Apple picks up many of those people who claimed they couldn't afford one or didn't want to switch to a different provider.
Now myself, I like my iPhone, but come on...in this case we are talking about platforms...So weird...
No, it's not a war; the only people who consider it a war are the people who will do anything to prove Apple isn't an innovative and in many ways cutting edge company. Competition? Yes. Competition is good. But if you really look, the majority of Android phones available on the open market sell for less than $100 and most of those sell for less than $50. So for Apple to offer its older model in the same price range is only leveling the field and proving that it's not just Android, but the price that is driving Android's sales so fast. Compete in the same ball fields at the same pricing and you see that Apple picks up many of those people who claimed they couldn't afford one or didn't want to switch to a different provider.
samcolak
Apr 22, 12:03 PM
Stop it please, you're hurting me... OpenStep is a specification of which GNUStep is a GPL licensed implementation released by the GNU project. Foundation and Cocoa are the NeXTSTEP acquired implementations that Apple is using.
OpenSTEP is not licensed under a GNU project license at all...
POSIX is not a kernel. It's a standard programming interface that UNIX systems used to make sure that one program written for a UNIX system would compile another as long as the standard was followed.
Minix, while being a POSIX compliant OS, was a complete implementation done by Andrew Tannenbaum for a book he was writing.
Your grasp of all of this history is quite muddied. Seriously, who are you trying to convince here ? You've gotten about every fact wrong about this whole thing. The plain fact remains, I was right all along, your correction was quite wrong when you said :
You completely misunderstood my post when I said Bash was part of the GNU project. Bash has always been GNU, always will be. The GPL is very much "GNU licensing".
Enjoy easter yourself and use the days off to work on your grasp of the whole UNIX and open source histories.
From GNU.org (http://www.gnu.org/) :
Again, the Foundation is called the FSF, from their site, FSF.org (http://www.fsf.org/) :
Stop getting it wrong, we're on the Internet, the sites are there to correct you.
Ok maybe you are drinking a bit too much coke, so calm down a little - I said the Bash was under the GPL license - this is correct. You are equally correct in saying its under GNU (i just clarified in saying GPL). My mistake in saying you were wrong.
2. I said the GNU was a project started in 1984 - we both agree on this.
3. The FSF (a foundation) was what GNU evolved into - we both agree on this.
4. Per Bash, i never said it wasnt part of GPL/GNU - it is - I agree.
5. OpenStep is the open source repository of NextStep - per GNUstep, couldnt care less.
My unix history is pretty clear but thanks for the heads up.
OpenSTEP is not licensed under a GNU project license at all...
POSIX is not a kernel. It's a standard programming interface that UNIX systems used to make sure that one program written for a UNIX system would compile another as long as the standard was followed.
Minix, while being a POSIX compliant OS, was a complete implementation done by Andrew Tannenbaum for a book he was writing.
Your grasp of all of this history is quite muddied. Seriously, who are you trying to convince here ? You've gotten about every fact wrong about this whole thing. The plain fact remains, I was right all along, your correction was quite wrong when you said :
You completely misunderstood my post when I said Bash was part of the GNU project. Bash has always been GNU, always will be. The GPL is very much "GNU licensing".
Enjoy easter yourself and use the days off to work on your grasp of the whole UNIX and open source histories.
From GNU.org (http://www.gnu.org/) :
Again, the Foundation is called the FSF, from their site, FSF.org (http://www.fsf.org/) :
Stop getting it wrong, we're on the Internet, the sites are there to correct you.
Ok maybe you are drinking a bit too much coke, so calm down a little - I said the Bash was under the GPL license - this is correct. You are equally correct in saying its under GNU (i just clarified in saying GPL). My mistake in saying you were wrong.
2. I said the GNU was a project started in 1984 - we both agree on this.
3. The FSF (a foundation) was what GNU evolved into - we both agree on this.
4. Per Bash, i never said it wasnt part of GPL/GNU - it is - I agree.
5. OpenStep is the open source repository of NextStep - per GNUstep, couldnt care less.
My unix history is pretty clear but thanks for the heads up.
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rjfiske
Aug 15, 05:09 PM
Call me crazy, but I'd not be surprised if Leopard was a free update for Tiger owners - if not all Mac owners.
You're crazy. :) But one thing I would like to see is a free upgrade to iLife for everyone who upgrades Leopard. Or else some kind of Leopard / iLife buy-together discount. That would be most welcome.
rjf
You're crazy. :) But one thing I would like to see is a free upgrade to iLife for everyone who upgrades Leopard. Or else some kind of Leopard / iLife buy-together discount. That would be most welcome.
rjf
NickZac
Jan 2, 07:24 AM
One thing I'm surprised we haven't gone into is the fact that there are starving kids in Africa, and this gluttonous woman is unnecessary gorging food that could really be going to someone else who needs it more. It isn't as if she needs 30k calories to survive.
Whether she eats 300 or 300,000 calories will have no affect on that. Current food production is more than enough to meet world needs, but for numerous reasons, produced food is often used for applications other than human consumption.
Whether she eats 300 or 300,000 calories will have no affect on that. Current food production is more than enough to meet world needs, but for numerous reasons, produced food is often used for applications other than human consumption.
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Rooskibar03
Sep 30, 04:10 PM
Dropped calls is a feature of the iphone... enjoy ;)
I think thats under the "Easter Egg" section of features.
I think thats under the "Easter Egg" section of features.
boursin
Sep 12, 08:22 PM
Got this shirt this morning...
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=251394&stc=1&d=1284340699
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=251394&stc=1&d=1284340699
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SciFrog
Nov 23, 03:03 PM
yeah i know. i read that they would add them, but if they haven't by now, i don't think they will
Strange it hasn't been done yet. It would help as we struggle to take on ClubLexus as they have raised their production very close to our level.
On another note, it looks like the Gulftown 6 core that will be next in the Mac Pro are screaming. It will be hard to resist getting a 12 core machine (24 with hyperthreading) unless the price is ridiculous. Should be good for 60k PPD ;)
Strange it hasn't been done yet. It would help as we struggle to take on ClubLexus as they have raised their production very close to our level.
On another note, it looks like the Gulftown 6 core that will be next in the Mac Pro are screaming. It will be hard to resist getting a 12 core machine (24 with hyperthreading) unless the price is ridiculous. Should be good for 60k PPD ;)
Mac-Addict
Oct 24, 08:49 AM
Does it come with the trolley needed to carry it? We're talking notebooks here :)
Correction...
*Truck
do you guys think i should just go ahead and buy a macbook then? i would love a MBP, but its to expensive.. im just a highschool student, and the black would really be great.
i dont know what to do :(
If you need it now buy it now! But when the macbooks get upgraded they may have a price drop and more ram and faster CPU and maybe even better graphics, just wait aslong as you can and if they havent had upgrades then your just gunna have to live with that..
Correction...
*Truck
do you guys think i should just go ahead and buy a macbook then? i would love a MBP, but its to expensive.. im just a highschool student, and the black would really be great.
i dont know what to do :(
If you need it now buy it now! But when the macbooks get upgraded they may have a price drop and more ram and faster CPU and maybe even better graphics, just wait aslong as you can and if they havent had upgrades then your just gunna have to live with that..
2 Replies
Apr 14, 03:01 PM
Being a non-jetsetting 3gs user, this isn't really worth it for me. Maybe I'll get it sometime, but no rush here. :-p
But seeing that it "Contains the latest security updates"...
It would really be nice if small patches and updates like that were distributed through the iOS app store.
OTA updates would be a GOOD thing.
(Especially since Apple store employees are known for insisting iPhone users and iPad users don't necessarily NEED a computer. :-/ )
But seeing that it "Contains the latest security updates"...
It would really be nice if small patches and updates like that were distributed through the iOS app store.
OTA updates would be a GOOD thing.
(Especially since Apple store employees are known for insisting iPhone users and iPad users don't necessarily NEED a computer. :-/ )
DCJ001
Apr 22, 06:42 PM
I really don't see them adding the dual core chip to the iPhone or the iPod Touch, maybe an increase in processor speed but I think the more powerful processor is going to be reserved for the iPad now.
I'm sure that you are wrong.
I'm sure that you are wrong.
Mrawr
Apr 14, 01:34 PM
I can confirm this. I have had the Mulititasking Gestures on my iPad(1) and I'm running 4.3.
Odd... I'm running 4.3 on my original iPad as well and don't have the gestures as an option.
Odd... I'm running 4.3 on my original iPad as well and don't have the gestures as an option.
bobdude5
Mar 17, 07:27 AM
Already about 10 people at spectrum..looks a person slept overnight..brought a full on bed
carlgo
Oct 1, 08:51 AM
It's interesting how cell service works. Here's a simplistic summary:
Only a certain number of users can use a tower at any given time. There is only a certain range of frequencies that can be used. All towers use these same frequencies. This means that each tower must not overlap the others in terms of coverage area and frequenceis. To ensure this, companies actually use different frequency ranges on adjacent towers. Further limiting how many users can use each tower.
The solution to this is to create smaller cell sites that cover a smaller area (and therefore will have fewer users at any given time). The problem with this is that each new cell site requires a new tower. With all the opposition to new tower construction it can take months or years to get approval to build one.
With the massive growth in cell usage companies are having to create smaller and smaller cell sites. Because of the way the system works putting up one new tower requires the reconfiguration of all the adjacent towers. Their signal area must be changed, their frequencies must be changed and it all must be integrated together.
When you get a dropped call, it's usually because you are moving into another cell site (serviced by a new tower). Your call must be handed off to the new tower. If this new tower is at capacity or overloaded, failures happen.
This is why it sucks for very high density areas.
Luckily in Minneapolis we have very good AT&T coverage. I get very fast 3G speeds and <1% dropped calls everywhere I go. Thank you urban sprawl for spreading everyone out.. When I was in NYC I noticed by data speeds were much slower. I didn't make enough calls to have any problems with that though.
Nice explanation. It seems that the whole idea of cell towers is unworkable. You think it is bad in the cities? Even semi-rural areas have no coverage at all.
There has to be an entirely new technology for this, or the use of satellites or aircraft instead of silly towers. C'mon Apple, solve this problem.
Only a certain number of users can use a tower at any given time. There is only a certain range of frequencies that can be used. All towers use these same frequencies. This means that each tower must not overlap the others in terms of coverage area and frequenceis. To ensure this, companies actually use different frequency ranges on adjacent towers. Further limiting how many users can use each tower.
The solution to this is to create smaller cell sites that cover a smaller area (and therefore will have fewer users at any given time). The problem with this is that each new cell site requires a new tower. With all the opposition to new tower construction it can take months or years to get approval to build one.
With the massive growth in cell usage companies are having to create smaller and smaller cell sites. Because of the way the system works putting up one new tower requires the reconfiguration of all the adjacent towers. Their signal area must be changed, their frequencies must be changed and it all must be integrated together.
When you get a dropped call, it's usually because you are moving into another cell site (serviced by a new tower). Your call must be handed off to the new tower. If this new tower is at capacity or overloaded, failures happen.
This is why it sucks for very high density areas.
Luckily in Minneapolis we have very good AT&T coverage. I get very fast 3G speeds and <1% dropped calls everywhere I go. Thank you urban sprawl for spreading everyone out.. When I was in NYC I noticed by data speeds were much slower. I didn't make enough calls to have any problems with that though.
Nice explanation. It seems that the whole idea of cell towers is unworkable. You think it is bad in the cities? Even semi-rural areas have no coverage at all.
There has to be an entirely new technology for this, or the use of satellites or aircraft instead of silly towers. C'mon Apple, solve this problem.
bizill
Apr 26, 01:38 PM
It'll be a pathetic excuse for a cloud if it'll only stream in the US (which if they continue with this 1 datacenter model will be the case). Amazon will beat them here, hands down. Have you seen how many datacenters they have?
http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2008/11/18/where-amazons-data-centers-are-located/
^ That vs 1 datacenter...lets think...who's going to get the better performance...
Also, the point of the cloud is redundancy. What happens WHEN the 1 datacenter goes down (e.g power problems, network problems, natural disasters, etc)? Apple's will be wiped out in one move, Amazon just fail over to another DC location.
Uhhh, perhaps you missed the massive Amazon outage last week?
http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2008/11/18/where-amazons-data-centers-are-located/
^ That vs 1 datacenter...lets think...who's going to get the better performance...
Also, the point of the cloud is redundancy. What happens WHEN the 1 datacenter goes down (e.g power problems, network problems, natural disasters, etc)? Apple's will be wiped out in one move, Amazon just fail over to another DC location.
Uhhh, perhaps you missed the massive Amazon outage last week?
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